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| 0 | better than Thomas white |
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| 2 | This is a very interesting one and shows the fall out between HBTDL and First |
| 2 | WHy I have trouble trusting these guys lol |
| 0 | I missed this one |
| 2 | They turn on eachother all the time |
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| 0 | its like there cool for a sec then lash out lol |
| 2 | yep |
| 2 | First is specifically like that |
| 3 | Hell is much more behaved. |
| 0 | yeah i was gonna say hell is trying to be cool |
| 2 | Dashboard will lose his patience after awhile and then lash out |
| 2 | Dashboard is probably a little more gracious than First |
| 0 | first definitely had a personal beef before this even started |
| 3 | He now denies everything he ever said and now says all guys get girls. |
| 4 | Pandemic ruined everything and did irreparable damage |
| 4 | Socially |
| 2 | First does have some good takes it's just he's volatile |
| 4 | Take in the good throw out the bad |
| 3 | The phony pandemic actually made male-female relations worse. |
| 2 | That and politics |
| 5 | So Hoca is just reposting the vc someone else already posted? |
| 4 | Fact the scamdemic made women paranoid of cold approaches further moving interactions online and towards transhumanism |
| 4 | lol facts women see cold approach like a homeless approaching you |
| 2 | Hell is turning out more right over time |
| 3 | Look at all the excess violent males in the Getty image. |
| 4 | Hell is an Academic, but he’s flawed of course he’s right |
| 4 | Hell is a Stem cell mental cell |
| 2 | I was hearing Raymond saying that the sun is brighter than normal just like Hell said lol |
| 4 | Facts annoying image too much scrotals |
| 4 | Send the scrotals to fight the Mexican cartel |
| 3 | Lots of jizz in that pic. |
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| 6 | Hey |
| 4 | Hello |
| 2 | yeah First was on the kill here |
| 2 | Mamoom control factor like what WCP said |
| 7 | Epstein was sponsored by 🇮🇱 |
| 8 | The Pandemic was not fake |
| 7 | Israel armed the cartels |
| 3 | Gender ratios are worse in the west than in China. China has 1.2 to 1 men to women. American is probably 4 to 1, maybe 5 to 1. |
| 9 | great job steve 😎👍 |
| 2 | LOl First will love domb you and then this will happen later |
| 7 | I haven't listened to either Steve in a while, which one is Steve again?. |
| 4 | Check out the movie Magazine dreams good example of a gymcel |
| 10 | notice that first argues like a women, ad hominom attacks. |
| 4 | First is very sporadic and emotional |
| 4 | He sounds dangerous |
| 2 | Is First a FED?! |
| 4 | First is very frustrated no pus |
| 4 | Loool |
| 7 | Jews have little noses? 😂 |
| 9 | hbtdl is like the christopher hitchens of the man-o-sphere 😁 |
| 2 | Is he just bringing in ink wells then turn on them and say that its really you who is the problem |
| 11 | hbtdbl is right in this debate. first comes off like a bitch in this video shaming him |
| 4 | First is loser we know he been struggling |
| 12 | first is probably right that Alex is way overweight and also afraid to talk to women, so he is projecting his own experience on the world |
| 4 | It’s over for whites |
| 4 | What???? What’s are the biggest cucs and simps they get the least pus s statistically by social engineering we believe |
| 11 | every single commercial has white women and black men together. the elites really promote that |
| 4 | Whites |
| 4 | In Germany they actually give a booklet to immigrants with imagery showcasing instructions on how immigrants can have sex with white German women the elites are cucing their male citizens lol |
| 4 | Sex ed |
| 2 | lol |
| 2 | OMG |
| 4 | The sexual frustration is real |
| 13 | hey @lonehiker22 👊 |
| 2 | Hi Mr. addict |
| 2 | I was thinking about you an hour ago |
| 1 | 2*6*ChwKGkNJTy01NmlFODQ4REZUX1FsQWtkZFA0dmlR |
| 4 | First is such a sperg |
| 13 | me? @lonehiker22 lmao |
| 2 | @Doug Garrison I was thinking you haven't been around as much |
| 13 | first has def grown up the last few years. |
| 14 | FIRST tells the truth |
| 14 | even when he was on first and lms videos.. |
| 13 | No not too much @lonehiker22. after depressed unwanted man got a wife, that was sort of a high point. |
| 2 | First and WD have turned on Lamprey |
| 14 | you boys can't wake up to reality you're not entitled to these ONLY FANS CHICKS and the Instagram thots. |
| 13 | I do still frequent whoremaxxer's tho lonehiker. im a mod over there. |
| 14 | most of y'all want eight nines and tens but you look like Quasimodo by the face |
| 2 | @Doug Garrison The only reason I stay is because these guys are more interesting than Democrat vs Republican |
| 2 | Although I have been getting annoyed with some of the theories and insane levels of disunity like you see here |
| 4 | Dash is soo racist lol |
| 2 | Just total and absolute toxic levels of disagreeableness and blood sports. and its personal too not just a battle |
| 2 | Men are just turning into Betta fish toward eachother |
| 13 | I agree @lonehiker22. ive never liked the infighting. |
| 2 | It's just to see who is top IQ and more cutthroat with the quick-witted comebacks |
| 13 | exactly @lonehiker |
| 2 | Its not just them its in other sphere's |
| 15 | hogmaxxing |
| 13 | first is just flaming dashboard lmao |
| 2 | and like I said its not about just a fight sharpening ideas. Its about to delete someone as quickly as possible |
| 2 | Its personal and its for the kill |
| 2 | First and his group were just trying to federalize the ink wells and TFLers under their rule |
| 13 | damn lolx |
| 4 | Milfmaxxing? |
| 13 | im glad hoca recorded all these. Hopefully he still has loremaster8953 stuff. |
| 16 | @Doug Garrison You hate infighting yet support wh*remaxxer who fights everyone, make it make sense. |
| 4 | first is such a salty loser |
| 2 | Thats why they split Bill Great house and pulled Hoca to their side to gain their audience and such' |
| 16 | your part of the problem yourself doug |
| 4 | Fact |
| 16 | Bill felt betrayed by Hoca |
| 14 | that's why most of you guys try to geomax and go to Thailand and Philippines because you can't compete here in the states |
| 2 | They did the same thing when they bumped Patrick from Thomas White and took over |
| 15 | poormaxxing |
| 14 | in your excuses how Western women are awful what makes those women out there in different you guys act like they don't have internet access and see how they can manipulate Simps and betas |
| 4 | First is a Russian cel |
| 16 | 🍿 |
| 4 | Never seen face, but hell dash is tall |
| 4 | First is also an immigrant he’s a Russian |
| 4 | Dork |
| 16 | I thought he was asian since he would constantly use woman when he should be saying women |
| 16 | asians tend to do this |
| 17 | @doug good evening! |
| 2 | First believes in the Monday Blue Monday type of thinking |
| 2 | Monday FA Monday* |
| 2 | The blue was his second channel |
| 4 | lol |
| 4 | Never |
| 18 | battle of the titans here |
| 2 | Bill Great House was against that because he believed it was modern programming against what was natural. Back in his and Hoca's day women would help you if you are shy and awkward. |
| 4 | Good call f marriage waste of time |
| 16 | Dashboard missed his chance |
| 4 | Lonehiker wow |
| 4 | In today’s society women castigate shame shyness |
| 2 | Today they are off put by it and Monday Fa Monday was saying it was your fault that you aren't acting according to the programming of society. SO they called Monday a FED |
| 4 | Most women’s kids are mixed race |
| 2 | This was according to Bill Great House. Actually if I remember correctly Bill was calling people agents at that time |
| 19 | rumble in the incel jungle |
| 15 | 💀 |
| 20 | first is a bay area asian, he cant say plural "women" and his speech pattern is clearly the cali asian accent, hes also a government agent |
| 4 | Dorkcels |
| 16 | bill and his wife were swingers |
| 2 | Bill Greathouse was calling First an agent. At one point First appeared to have unban himself from Bills ban list. Somehow it happened and was furthur proof to Bill that First was an agent getting key |
| 2 | key to the platform from Googl |
| 16 | Bill called everyone a fed, he suffered from paranoia |
| 2 | Bill went on a rant after the fact. |
| 4 | Fact First could be agent he’s very hostile, disagreeable, negative he’s also Russian |
| 16 | end of the day the community is full of mental cases |
| 2 | He told me in chat directly not to go to Incelmatics. he also said ink well meant in cell |
| 2 | that is go to prison |
| 5 | Anybody listening to the TW stream, is uncle Bucko still stochastichally phedgrooming critt? |
| 2 | @Ice wallow Come I remember you in different name I think |
| 2 | There were also many pron hits after the Annika stream in Friday night 16 January 4th 2020 |
| 16 | haha |
| 2 | They blammed ronfan |
| 2 | he denied |
| 2 | then they blammed an alias called COX |
| 5 | Also is this entire beef a Bezmenovian KGB psyop. We're currently listening to 2 "slavs" arguing on a channel owned by another "slav" |
| 2 | furthur splitting the community |
| 2 | then the Jayna thing happened |
| 2 | I remember a lot of things |
| 16 | how did hoca get this recording? Was he lurking on discord during the call and recording the audio? |
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| 5 | Hoca, First, Dashboard, all ""slavs"" |
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| 20 | why dont people recognize First clearly has a california asian accent? |
| 16 | I always thought first was asian |
| 5 | First just has a recessed jaw accent |
| 2 | Bill got severely trolled into oblivion. Ultra T would respawn unrelentingly |
| 16 | its not just the accent its the way he says woman, when it should be the plural women. Asian's tend to do this. |
| 20 | almost everyone buys his slavic backround story, how many bay area slavs are tech bros in the bay area? cant even say "women"..clearly a lying asian |
| 16 | first is an east asian, at least a mix of it. |
| 2 | First and his incelmatics dominated after that |
| 2 | Todd and his line of people grew kind of independently |
| 5 | Dashboard has never held a baby in his life |
| 16 | it's like hoca said if you don't show your face you should always be sceptical of them |
| 2 | Eggy did his own thing |
| 16 | eggy is doing well in life |
| 16 | he mogging |
| 2 | yeah but I wouldn't want to show my face either in this community |
| 21 | I wish I was just 305! It can always be worse! |
| 2 | I don't even liking revealing myself IRL let alone to you face stealers |
| 16 | trolling and phonies don't wanna show their face either thats the thing |
| 2 | Now we have AI that can do whatever to me |
| 16 | showing your face adds credibility and shows your not a larper and have skin in the game |
| 20 | two agents trying to get info on dashboard |
| 2 | yeah but I just don't want to hand that over to these people |
| 16 | as bill would say "it's in your face!" |
| 2 | I don't do vids anyways |
| 16 | it is mroe important for the youtuber to show themselves not people in chat |
| 2 | I'm terrible looking and will admit it so be happy with tht |
| 5 | To First's point, one of Dash's last streams he talked about eating an indian dessert called Gulab Jamun. I tried Gulab Jamun from a fancy restaurant and it was disgustingly sweet. |
| 2 | mostly because I let myself go. |
| 20 | hilarious listening to First, a bugman dweeb talking shit to dashboard, typical shittalking spiteful mutant |
| 16 | it's not about whether your good looking or not, it's about showing you have skin in the game and not a larper |
| 20 | First wouldnt say a word to dashboards face |
| 22 | I fucking miss First. He was my favourite content creator in the manosphere at this time. Dude was on all four cylinders this year. I wonder what he's up to these days |
| 16 | once you put yourself out there it makes you mroe accountable, so it becomes harder to mess around and larp |
| 20 | First is a subhuman dweeb agent,, only tards believe hes legit |
| 16 | its why trolls don't want to show themselves |
| 5 | The Behemoth of Buffalo |
| 16 | I reckon first just got tired of it all and is doing other things with his life now |
| 2 | Hoca is the only one who stood the test of time |
| 2 | Hoca out lasted many enemies and has seen the manosphere through all its eras |
| 16 | well to be fair hoca disappeared for a while multiple times, he had had stick around he may of burn out from it all and left it all |
| 5 | First is being a little deluded too, he definitely got himself a ukranian literal war refugee gf and now he talks all tough |
| 2 | Well Hoca took two deaths recently |
| 2 | His mom and his sister |
| 23 | first did this bad faith job and wonders why people won't do interviews with him |
| 16 | but I believe it has been more than twice so that would not explain the other times |
| 16 | it's even known as the hoca cycle, appear, make content for a while then vanish until he returns. Rinse and repeat. |
| 20 | this guys a liar, euros have it way better than america |
| 20 | euros have no idea how shit america is |
| 16 | Some have questioned whether it's because steve gets into a relationship then once he is single again for awhile he gets back into tfl content. |
| 2 | That is common among the boyos |
| 2 | Todd has done it |
| 2 | Dashboard has done it both are missing now |
| 2 | Face came back a little recently |
| 20 | just look at world country and city murder rates, euros have nothing on the shithole americas |
| 22 | I dont reckon its because theyre getting into relationships, more so the content gets stale and/or different priorities take hold |
| 2 | They go into dormancy |
| 16 | some for sure are getting into relationship they just don't wanna admit it |
| 16 | because it undermines their victim narrative |
| 16 | even the lead person at the incel forum got outed as having a gf |
| 2 | Some think Todd might be in a relationship now |
| 20 | one normal man vs a bunch of hysterical effeminate dweebs, these guys are pathetic |
| 16 | who knows, thats the thing you dont actually know these people in real life |
| 16 | take eggy, people assume he never gets girls yet when he gets wasted it comes out that he has been dating girls etc |
| 20 | dashbiars is right, first has been bought off, hes a government agent, was from the beginning |
| 20 | *dashboard |
| 16 | LOL |
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| 22 | @Ice wallow Come you're framing this as if I should be jealous/look up to their success. I cant see dating being an enjoyable or compelling experience after years of inceldom/manosphere content |
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| 20 | even dashboard knows first is asian |
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| 2 | I'm legitimately a virgin and have always been angry at the behavior of society thats why I'm here |
| 22 | If they are somehow finding partners...then great? Lol. It doesn't undermine anything |
| 16 | no that is not what I am saying spoooky at all |
| 22 | Sorry then, I might have misunderstood |
| 16 | I just saying there is examples of streamers who hide or downplay their success with women |
| 2 | Dashboard actually admitted he was wrong about the American shang to his defense. He's just stubborn |
| 16 | not saying you should be jealous or envious of it |
| 22 | You just said earlier that some people dont want to admit that people are getting into relationships because it "undermines their victim narrative", after I posited why first & HBTDL disappeared |
| 2 | The reason I would disappear is because I got roasted and felt exposed from it. |
| 16 | end of the day unless you know them in real life take everything they say with a pinch of salt |
| 22 | I could be wrong -- maybe they have found partners. But I would wager it as unlikely for serveral reasons |
| 16 | @spo0o0ky yes because that is the case, they will say oh no women wants me, gaining sympathy yet the truth is they have been dating. |
| 16 | well we know that they have been as I already pointed out, they didn't mean to disclose that they have been dating etc |
| 2 | I know for fact I would have the potential of deleting all of my content if I were roasted severely enough |
| 22 | @spo0o0ky Ehh, even when you consider things like the agepill, the teenlovepill, the justbefirstpill, you could have dating prospects later on in life and it wouldnt change much |
| 2 | That is the honest truth about myself |
| 22 | If it took until after you left school for your dating life to take off, you did not come out on top. Plain and simple |
| 2 | but as for the others, disappearing because of ascending and looking down on the boyos and/or avoiding contempt from them is possible |
| 2 | There are those who would look down on the community thinking they are better if they ascend. That is a thing |
| 2 | The boyos have their part to play in that too though |
| 2 | crabs in a bucket syndrome |
| 22 | I'm gonna be upfront, I had opportunities to "ascend", and I didnt pursue them. Why? Because by the time I started getting opportunities I was past my teen years and entrenched in blackpill content |
| 12 | who is the guy other than Alex and first who is speaking? |
| 2 | I have deem most guys in this sphere as too aggressive and even too dangerous for me to make vids and streams. I would probably be hurting myself doing so. Thats why I went quiet |
| 2 | I just remain in the chats |
| 16 | damn first saying you all belong in the psych ward! |
| 24 | 140kg wow |
| 24 | DAshboard is fatcel |
| 2 | Yeah but Dashboard admitted that |
| 16 | damn first spitting facts |
| 16 | 🔥 |
| 2 | I wouldn't trust First |
| 24 | Just confirms all people in BP community do have issue with looks, everyone is sub 5 |
| 2 | absolutely not |
| 2 | Is that the infamous Jet |
| 5 | 😁 |
| 20 | First is a spiteful effeminate dweeb, hes a classic bugman nerd that spits vile spite and hatred towards normal men, raymond thoughts is another example of a spiteful dweeb |
| 12 | hey lonehiker I have heard first mention his partner jet so that could be it |
| 25 | which j recorded this? |
| 5 | @paul Dashboard samefging |
| 16 | damn |
| 24 | Same with WEstern Decline, he is fat, balding with crooked teeth. How can he expect to attract anything when objectively guy is in bottom 30% |
| 16 | dashboard is getting buried right now! |
| 2 | It wouldn't surprise me they gave this to Steve due to Steve being critical of Dashboard at times |
| 26 | where is hbtdl now? |
| 2 | kind of like a flying monkey thing |
| 20 | all these guys are spiteful dweebs, you can hear it in their voice, its no wonder theyre incels just listen to their voices, voice physiognomy never lies |
| 16 | @Hello User that's insane and simply not true, it's mental issues that is the most common reason. Most are around average looking in this community |
| 12 | I think Alex is allowing the interrogation because it is a rare opportunity to receive actual real insight on himself, even if it hurts |
| 5 | Dash is doing bouncing work at the clubs in Buffalo so he can get paid to Demographise |
| 26 | i hope he's ok wherever he is |
| 2 | Yeah but Firsts friend is WD |
| 20 | this new guy sounds like a queer |
| 22 | He left the stream. Funny, I dont remember this at all. Explains why he went absent and the more recent-ish streams I was able to catch, he was completely unhinged |
| 23 | first is doing the biggest gaslighting i ever seen done on anyone |
| 2 | Him and Western Decline are in contact |
| 13 | haha |
| 24 | @Ice wallow Come We are tlaking about WD, HBDL and based on their description they are not average. Sub4 or sub3 is deal breaker right off the bet |
| 27 | shalom |
| 20 | effieminate dweebs and a queer talk shit about the one normal sounding man in the chat, peak_clownworld |
| 2 | Western decline isane in the anti J rhetoric |
| 28 | shalom joodas |
| 2 | they both turned on Lamprey together |
| 13 | hell really needed to cam up years ago in order to fracture his ego. |
| 24 | Is this critters talking abt Trnz LOL |
| 13 | 🤣 |
| 5 | Whremaxxer at that time was peak TV |
| 28 | i just got here. who won? hbtdl or first? |
| 2 | These guys are more blood thirsty than anyhthing else |
| 29 | does whoremaxxer still have a channel? |
| 13 | wm is collecting matches on tinder as we speak. these guys are so knee jerk. |
| 20 | spiteful mutants |
| 24 | HBDL got obliterated |
| 20 | these guys have a literal queer as their ally, a true dei agentclownshow |
| 5 | this actually does sound like critters |
| 2 | Western Decline and First are literally in contact. and WD is a huge in anti J |
| 27 | these guys speaking the truth |
| 12 | I'm at -41:30 - is that where everybody who started watching right when it started is? |
| 22 | So if they are so well-adjusted and successful, then how did they end up in this space? That's the million dollar question |
| 12 | that guy who spoke up at 4145 sounded like critters |
| 27 | HBTDL is mentally ill and so are his fans |
| 28 | unless you're ultra attractive you'll end up alone, but it's all your fault - first |
| 24 | Are they talking abt HBDL? Is he mentally ill...for real? |
| 5 | Dashboard isnt mentally ill, just deep in cope |
| 16 | rabbi your very mentally ill too most people in this space is and that's why your tfl |
| 27 | Dashboard is a pied piper for the weak |
| 12 | Alex's copes are hugely delusional - at some point that would be considered mental illness |
| 27 | @Ice Wallpw Come cope harder gentile cur |
| 28 | who's the guy with the zesty voice? |
| 5 | Dashboard is the funniest TFLer ever though, no one comes close |
| 27 | @Ice Wallow Come i don't care what filthy livestock like us think |
| 2 | Was the roast really necessary |
| 2 | at the level at it was |
| 30 | Yes. Verrrry |
| 31 | How is HBTDL funny? |
| 12 | they're being ruthless with Alex but if some of it gets through it might actually help him realize he needs to make some changes |
| 24 | He needs to lose 30-40kg at last. fattness is big turn off when try meet ladies, first impression |
| 16 | well that bridge between hoca and dashboard is well and truly burned now after releasing this. |
| 28 | Steve don't take this down. i need to listen from the beginning |
| 12 | now I know why Alex eould badmouth Jolin on some of his streams -sound sounds like he did take his shot with her but failed |
| 2 | It didn't change his rhetoric |
| 12 | is that critters at -42:16? |
| 1 | 0*1 |