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HBTDL Versus First: October 2022
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0better than Thomas white
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2This is a very interesting one and shows the fall out between HBTDL and First
2WHy I have trouble trusting these guys lol
0I missed this one
2They turn on eachother all the time
1Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines.
0its like there cool for a sec then lash out lol
2yep
2First is specifically like that
3Hell is much more behaved.
0yeah i was gonna say hell is trying to be cool
2Dashboard will lose his patience after awhile and then lash out
2Dashboard is probably a little more gracious than First
0first definitely had a personal beef before this even started
3He now denies everything he ever said and now says all guys get girls.
4Pandemic ruined everything and did irreparable damage
4Socially
2First does have some good takes it's just he's volatile
4Take in the good throw out the bad
3The phony pandemic actually made male-female relations worse.
2That and politics
5So Hoca is just reposting the vc someone else already posted?
4Fact the scamdemic made women paranoid of cold approaches further moving interactions online and towards transhumanism
4lol facts women see cold approach like a homeless approaching you
2Hell is turning out more right over time
3Look at all the excess violent males in the Getty image.
4Hell is an Academic, but he’s flawed of course he’s right
4Hell is a Stem cell mental cell
2I was hearing Raymond saying that the sun is brighter than normal just like Hell said lol
4Facts annoying image too much scrotals
4Send the scrotals to fight the Mexican cartel
3Lots of jizz in that pic.
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6Hey
4Hello
2yeah First was on the kill here
2Mamoom control factor like what WCP said
7Epstein was sponsored by 🇮🇱
8The Pandemic was not fake
7Israel armed the cartels
3Gender ratios are worse in the west than in China. China has 1.2 to 1 men to women. American is probably 4 to 1, maybe 5 to 1.
9great job steve 😎👍
2LOl First will love domb you and then this will happen later
7I haven't listened to either Steve in a while, which one is Steve again?.
4Check out the movie Magazine dreams good example of a gymcel
10notice that first argues like a women, ad hominom attacks.
4First is very sporadic and emotional
4He sounds dangerous
2Is First a FED?!
4First is very frustrated no pus
4Loool
7Jews have little noses? 😂
9hbtdl is like the christopher hitchens of the man-o-sphere 😁
2Is he just bringing in ink wells then turn on them and say that its really you who is the problem
11hbtdbl is right in this debate. first comes off like a bitch in this video shaming him
4First is loser we know he been struggling
12first is probably right that Alex is way overweight and also afraid to talk to women, so he is projecting his own experience on the world
4It’s over for whites
4What???? What’s are the biggest cucs and simps they get the least pus s statistically by social engineering we believe
11every single commercial has white women and black men together. the elites really promote that
4Whites
4In Germany they actually give a booklet to immigrants with imagery showcasing instructions on how immigrants can have sex with white German women the elites are cucing their male citizens lol
4Sex ed
2lol
2OMG
4The sexual frustration is real
13hey @lonehiker22 👊
2Hi Mr. addict
2I was thinking about you an hour ago
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4First is such a sperg
13me? @lonehiker22 lmao
2@Doug Garrison I was thinking you haven't been around as much
13first has def grown up the last few years.
14FIRST tells the truth
14even when he was on first and lms videos..
13No not too much @lonehiker22. after depressed unwanted man got a wife, that was sort of a high point.
2First and WD have turned on Lamprey
14you boys can't wake up to reality you're not entitled to these ONLY FANS CHICKS and the Instagram thots.
13I do still frequent whoremaxxer's tho lonehiker. im a mod over there.
14most of y'all want eight nines and tens but you look like Quasimodo by the face
2@Doug Garrison The only reason I stay is because these guys are more interesting than Democrat vs Republican
2Although I have been getting annoyed with some of the theories and insane levels of disunity like you see here
4Dash is soo racist lol
2Just total and absolute toxic levels of disagreeableness and blood sports. and its personal too not just a battle
2Men are just turning into Betta fish toward eachother
13I agree @lonehiker22. ive never liked the infighting.
2It's just to see who is top IQ and more cutthroat with the quick-witted comebacks
13exactly @lonehiker
2Its not just them its in other sphere's
15hogmaxxing
13first is just flaming dashboard lmao
2and like I said its not about just a fight sharpening ideas. Its about to delete someone as quickly as possible
2Its personal and its for the kill
2First and his group were just trying to federalize the ink wells and TFLers under their rule
13damn lolx
4Milfmaxxing?
13im glad hoca recorded all these. Hopefully he still has loremaster8953 stuff.
16@Doug Garrison You hate infighting yet support wh*remaxxer who fights everyone, make it make sense.
4first is such a salty loser
2Thats why they split Bill Great house and pulled Hoca to their side to gain their audience and such'
16your part of the problem yourself doug
4Fact
16Bill felt betrayed by Hoca
14that's why most of you guys try to geomax and go to Thailand and Philippines because you can't compete here in the states
2They did the same thing when they bumped Patrick from Thomas White and took over
15poormaxxing
14in your excuses how Western women are awful what makes those women out there in different you guys act like they don't have internet access and see how they can manipulate Simps and betas
4First is a Russian cel
16🍿
4Never seen face, but hell dash is tall
4First is also an immigrant he’s a Russian
4Dork
16I thought he was asian since he would constantly use woman when he should be saying women
16asians tend to do this
17@doug good evening!
2First believes in the Monday Blue Monday type of thinking
2Monday FA Monday*
2The blue was his second channel
4lol
4Never
18battle of the titans here
2Bill Great House was against that because he believed it was modern programming against what was natural. Back in his and Hoca's day women would help you if you are shy and awkward.
4Good call f marriage waste of time
16Dashboard missed his chance
4Lonehiker wow
4In today’s society women castigate shame shyness
2Today they are off put by it and Monday Fa Monday was saying it was your fault that you aren't acting according to the programming of society. SO they called Monday a FED
4Most women’s kids are mixed race
2This was according to Bill Great House. Actually if I remember correctly Bill was calling people agents at that time
19rumble in the incel jungle
15💀
20first is a bay area asian, he cant say plural "women" and his speech pattern is clearly the cali asian accent, hes also a government agent
4Dorkcels
16bill and his wife were swingers
2Bill Greathouse was calling First an agent. At one point First appeared to have unban himself from Bills ban list. Somehow it happened and was furthur proof to Bill that First was an agent getting key
2key to the platform from Googl
16Bill called everyone a fed, he suffered from paranoia
2Bill went on a rant after the fact.
4Fact First could be agent he’s very hostile, disagreeable, negative he’s also Russian
16end of the day the community is full of mental cases
2He told me in chat directly not to go to Incelmatics. he also said ink well meant in cell
2that is go to prison
5Anybody listening to the TW stream, is uncle Bucko still stochastichally phedgrooming critt?
2@Ice wallow Come I remember you in different name I think
2There were also many pron hits after the Annika stream in Friday night 16 January 4th 2020
16haha
2They blammed ronfan
2he denied
2then they blammed an alias called COX
5Also is this entire beef a Bezmenovian KGB psyop. We're currently listening to 2 "slavs" arguing on a channel owned by another "slav"
2furthur splitting the community
2then the Jayna thing happened
2I remember a lot of things
16how did hoca get this recording? Was he lurking on discord during the call and recording the audio?
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5Hoca, First, Dashboard, all ""slavs""
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20why dont people recognize First clearly has a california asian accent?
16I always thought first was asian
5First just has a recessed jaw accent
2Bill got severely trolled into oblivion. Ultra T would respawn unrelentingly
16its not just the accent its the way he says woman, when it should be the plural women. Asian's tend to do this.
20almost everyone buys his slavic backround story, how many bay area slavs are tech bros in the bay area? cant even say "women"..clearly a lying asian
16first is an east asian, at least a mix of it.
2First and his incelmatics dominated after that
2Todd and his line of people grew kind of independently
5Dashboard has never held a baby in his life
16it's like hoca said if you don't show your face you should always be sceptical of them
2Eggy did his own thing
16eggy is doing well in life
16he mogging
2yeah but I wouldn't want to show my face either in this community
21I wish I was just 305! It can always be worse!
2I don't even liking revealing myself IRL let alone to you face stealers
16trolling and phonies don't wanna show their face either thats the thing
2Now we have AI that can do whatever to me
16showing your face adds credibility and shows your not a larper and have skin in the game
20two agents trying to get info on dashboard
2yeah but I just don't want to hand that over to these people
16as bill would say "it's in your face!"
2I don't do vids anyways
16it is mroe important for the youtuber to show themselves not people in chat
2I'm terrible looking and will admit it so be happy with tht
5To First's point, one of Dash's last streams he talked about eating an indian dessert called Gulab Jamun. I tried Gulab Jamun from a fancy restaurant and it was disgustingly sweet.
2mostly because I let myself go.
20hilarious listening to First, a bugman dweeb talking shit to dashboard, typical shittalking spiteful mutant
16it's not about whether your good looking or not, it's about showing you have skin in the game and not a larper
20First wouldnt say a word to dashboards face
22I fucking miss First. He was my favourite content creator in the manosphere at this time. Dude was on all four cylinders this year. I wonder what he's up to these days
16once you put yourself out there it makes you mroe accountable, so it becomes harder to mess around and larp
20First is a subhuman dweeb agent,, only tards believe hes legit
16its why trolls don't want to show themselves
5The Behemoth of Buffalo
16I reckon first just got tired of it all and is doing other things with his life now
2Hoca is the only one who stood the test of time
2Hoca out lasted many enemies and has seen the manosphere through all its eras
16well to be fair hoca disappeared for a while multiple times, he had had stick around he may of burn out from it all and left it all
5First is being a little deluded too, he definitely got himself a ukranian literal war refugee gf and now he talks all tough
2Well Hoca took two deaths recently
2His mom and his sister
23first did this bad faith job and wonders why people won't do interviews with him
16but I believe it has been more than twice so that would not explain the other times
16it's even known as the hoca cycle, appear, make content for a while then vanish until he returns. Rinse and repeat.
20this guys a liar, euros have it way better than america
20euros have no idea how shit america is
16Some have questioned whether it's because steve gets into a relationship then once he is single again for awhile he gets back into tfl content.
2That is common among the boyos
2Todd has done it
2Dashboard has done it both are missing now
2Face came back a little recently
20just look at world country and city murder rates, euros have nothing on the shithole americas
22I dont reckon its because theyre getting into relationships, more so the content gets stale and/or different priorities take hold
2They go into dormancy
16some for sure are getting into relationship they just don't wanna admit it
16because it undermines their victim narrative
16even the lead person at the incel forum got outed as having a gf
2Some think Todd might be in a relationship now
20one normal man vs a bunch of hysterical effeminate dweebs, these guys are pathetic
16who knows, thats the thing you dont actually know these people in real life
16take eggy, people assume he never gets girls yet when he gets wasted it comes out that he has been dating girls etc
20dashbiars is right, first has been bought off, hes a government agent, was from the beginning
20*dashboard
16LOL
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22@Ice wallow Come you're framing this as if I should be jealous/look up to their success. I cant see dating being an enjoyable or compelling experience after years of inceldom/manosphere content
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20even dashboard knows first is asian
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2I'm legitimately a virgin and have always been angry at the behavior of society thats why I'm here
22If they are somehow finding partners...then great? Lol. It doesn't undermine anything
16no that is not what I am saying spoooky at all
22Sorry then, I might have misunderstood
16I just saying there is examples of streamers who hide or downplay their success with women
2Dashboard actually admitted he was wrong about the American shang to his defense. He's just stubborn
16not saying you should be jealous or envious of it
22You just said earlier that some people dont want to admit that people are getting into relationships because it "undermines their victim narrative", after I posited why first & HBTDL disappeared
2The reason I would disappear is because I got roasted and felt exposed from it.
16end of the day unless you know them in real life take everything they say with a pinch of salt
22I could be wrong -- maybe they have found partners. But I would wager it as unlikely for serveral reasons
16@spo0o0ky yes because that is the case, they will say oh no women wants me, gaining sympathy yet the truth is they have been dating.
16well we know that they have been as I already pointed out, they didn't mean to disclose that they have been dating etc
2I know for fact I would have the potential of deleting all of my content if I were roasted severely enough
22@spo0o0ky Ehh, even when you consider things like the agepill, the teenlovepill, the justbefirstpill, you could have dating prospects later on in life and it wouldnt change much
2That is the honest truth about myself
22If it took until after you left school for your dating life to take off, you did not come out on top. Plain and simple
2but as for the others, disappearing because of ascending and looking down on the boyos and/or avoiding contempt from them is possible
2There are those who would look down on the community thinking they are better if they ascend. That is a thing
2The boyos have their part to play in that too though
2crabs in a bucket syndrome
22I'm gonna be upfront, I had opportunities to "ascend", and I didnt pursue them. Why? Because by the time I started getting opportunities I was past my teen years and entrenched in blackpill content
12who is the guy other than Alex and first who is speaking?
2I have deem most guys in this sphere as too aggressive and even too dangerous for me to make vids and streams. I would probably be hurting myself doing so. Thats why I went quiet
2I just remain in the chats
16damn first saying you all belong in the psych ward!
24140kg wow
24DAshboard is fatcel
2Yeah but Dashboard admitted that
16damn first spitting facts
16🔥
2I wouldn't trust First
24Just confirms all people in BP community do have issue with looks, everyone is sub 5
2absolutely not
2Is that the infamous Jet
5😁
20First is a spiteful effeminate dweeb, hes a classic bugman nerd that spits vile spite and hatred towards normal men, raymond thoughts is another example of a spiteful dweeb
12hey lonehiker I have heard first mention his partner jet so that could be it
25which j recorded this?
5@paul Dashboard samefging
16damn
24Same with WEstern Decline, he is fat, balding with crooked teeth. How can he expect to attract anything when objectively guy is in bottom 30%
16dashboard is getting buried right now!
2It wouldn't surprise me they gave this to Steve due to Steve being critical of Dashboard at times
26where is hbtdl now?
2kind of like a flying monkey thing
20all these guys are spiteful dweebs, you can hear it in their voice, its no wonder theyre incels just listen to their voices, voice physiognomy never lies
16@Hello User that's insane and simply not true, it's mental issues that is the most common reason. Most are around average looking in this community
12I think Alex is allowing the interrogation because it is a rare opportunity to receive actual real insight on himself, even if it hurts
5Dash is doing bouncing work at the clubs in Buffalo so he can get paid to Demographise
26i hope he's ok wherever he is
2Yeah but Firsts friend is WD
20this new guy sounds like a queer
22He left the stream. Funny, I dont remember this at all. Explains why he went absent and the more recent-ish streams I was able to catch, he was completely unhinged
23first is doing the biggest gaslighting i ever seen done on anyone
2Him and Western Decline are in contact
13haha
24@Ice wallow Come We are tlaking about WD, HBDL and based on their description they are not average. Sub4 or sub3 is deal breaker right off the bet
27shalom
20effieminate dweebs and a queer talk shit about the one normal sounding man in the chat, peak_clownworld
2Western decline isane in the anti J rhetoric
28shalom joodas
2they both turned on Lamprey together
13hell really needed to cam up years ago in order to fracture his ego.
24Is this critters talking abt Trnz LOL
13🤣
5Whremaxxer at that time was peak TV
28i just got here. who won? hbtdl or first?
2These guys are more blood thirsty than anyhthing else
29does whoremaxxer still have a channel?
13wm is collecting matches on tinder as we speak. these guys are so knee jerk.
20spiteful mutants
24HBDL got obliterated
20these guys have a literal queer as their ally, a true dei agentclownshow
5this actually does sound like critters
2Western Decline and First are literally in contact. and WD is a huge in anti J
27these guys speaking the truth
12I'm at -41:30 - is that where everybody who started watching right when it started is?
22So if they are so well-adjusted and successful, then how did they end up in this space? That's the million dollar question
12that guy who spoke up at 4145 sounded like critters
27HBTDL is mentally ill and so are his fans
28unless you're ultra attractive you'll end up alone, but it's all your fault - first
24Are they talking abt HBDL? Is he mentally ill...for real?
5Dashboard isnt mentally ill, just deep in cope
16rabbi your very mentally ill too most people in this space is and that's why your tfl
27Dashboard is a pied piper for the weak
12Alex's copes are hugely delusional - at some point that would be considered mental illness
27@Ice Wallpw Come cope harder gentile cur
28who's the guy with the zesty voice?
5Dashboard is the funniest TFLer ever though, no one comes close
27@Ice Wallow Come i don't care what filthy livestock like us think
2Was the roast really necessary
2at the level at it was
30Yes. Verrrry
31How is HBTDL funny?
12they're being ruthless with Alex but if some of it gets through it might actually help him realize he needs to make some changes
24He needs to lose 30-40kg at last. fattness is big turn off when try meet ladies, first impression
16well that bridge between hoca and dashboard is well and truly burned now after releasing this.
28Steve don't take this down. i need to listen from the beginning
12now I know why Alex eould badmouth Jolin on some of his streams -sound sounds like he did take his shot with her but failed
2It didn't change his rhetoric
12is that critters at -42:16?
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